Direct vs Indirect

[dthomas]

As many people already know utilizing the non threatening, non sexual, opinion opener (Ex . who lies more men or women?) has become a popular choice of openers among PUAs. On the other hand, many of the guys who I consider 'naturally' good with women go in completely direct (ex. I had to come meet you!) and are incredibly successful in getting attraction and winning over the girl. My question to you is, what do you think is the best method for approaching and getting success with women?

[Gabe, aka Prof.]

The best method for approaching is either one as long as it is working. If you are comfortable regularly opening conversations with women either way, then you have developed a method that works and is most likely congruent with your personality. An opener is simply to get her into a conversation, if you get that far your opener has done it's job.

If it's not working...
One common problem I see are guys who refuse to use a canned opinion opener and then go out but don't approach any women. The best way to learn is to really get out there, put yourself on a limb and talk to everyone. A canned opinion opener is simply a non threating way to go and talk to a lot of women. That experience will improve your game faster than anything you can read about.

Openers and Conversation Starters

[Intrigue]

why choose? use BOTH! whichever one you feel like at the moment.

whenever i first start sarging my first couple sets are canned openers because they are so easy and a great way to warm up. then i usually use situational and direct whenever possible just because i get bored of the same openers and the same responses time after time.

hope that helps.
-intrigue

ps. you can always open with a direct opener and then stack an opinion opener with it.

[Zyruss Ribeu]

At the end... the important aspect is the delivery of the opener. Delivery is based on how tight ur game is and how confident you are in your skills. I think indirect openers are perfect to start, because it will give the newbie a chance to go below the radar and undertand how easy it can be to get further on in the conversation. Direct openers would be maybe to scary or provoque more rejections when delivered by someone unexperienced.

Now... when a person gets used to playing the game succesfully, after he "gets it", he will feel an overpowering confidence that will lead him to open in anyway and be succesfull just because of the mere belief.

So I would say a person should tighten up his game, get confident with indirect openers so then direct openers will be correctly delivered in a congruent way.

At the end the game is all about gettin the girl... so get one method running first, the test diferent approaches.